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Exploring Dust Automation Challenges with Zapier and Alternatives

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Hello, Unless I'm wrong, there isn't any orchestration layer for Dust, so we need to build automations using Zapier, Make, N8N etc... (even if these tools provide their own agent, Dust can still be useful). I built a simple 2-steps Zap in Zapier, always failing because This Dust step hit an error. The app did not respond in-time. It may or may not have completed successfully. My understanding is that we can not use Zapier if the Dust agent has reasoning capabilities, because it is taking too long. Does it make sense ? Is there any other tools that are better at "waiting" longer ?

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    Remi
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    Hello Thomas Albisser 👋 Yes, your understanding is correct! Here's what we know about the timeout limitations with different automation tools when using Dust: 1/ Zapier:

    • Has a hard 30-second timeout limit [1]

    • Cannot be modified or extended

    • Not suitable for complex reasoning tasks that take longer

    2/ Make (Integromat):

    • Has a 40-second timeout limit [2]

    • Slightly better than Zapier but still limited

    3/ Alternative solutions:

    • Pipedream is recommended as it allows custom timeouts [1,3]

    • N8N self-hosted version allows configuring timeout settings [2]

    • For Zapier/Make, you can split complex tasks into multiple steps or use webhook callbacks [1]

    The most recommended solution if you need longer execution times is to use Pipedream, as mentioned by the Dust team multiple times [4]. With Pipedream, you pay per second of execution time, so there's no hard timeout limit. If you want to stick with Zapier, you'll need to optimize your agent to respond faster or break down complex operations into smaller steps that can complete within the 30-second limit. References: [1] #03_help [2] #03_help [3] #03_help [4] #03_help

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    Thomas Albisser
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    Ok make sense, thanks. I didn't know that you had a pipedream integration !